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In the 81st episode of Pensado’s Place, Dave and Herb are joined by GRAMMY Award-winning producer, engineer, and author, Ken Caillat. Ken co-produced and co-engineered Fleetwood Mac’s 1977 album, Rumours which won the GRAMMY for Album of the Year. His work and experience on Rumours served as the basis for his book “Makring Rumours”. Also the father of singer-songwriter Colbie Caillat, Ken produced her albums Coco, Breakthrough, and All of You.