Rico Beats, the producer behind Pusha T‘s controversial “Exodus 23:1,” who also coincidentally produced Nicki Minaj and Lil’ Wayne‘s “Roman Reloaded,” recently shed some light on the meaning behind the record in an interview with MTV. Rico says that during the recording of the song, Lil’ Wayne’s name was not discussed at all. He says, “Honestly, when we were in the room listening to that record, I didn’t hear none of these guys’ names brought up. It was none of that. Dream got in his zone and he went in the booth. Pusha got his pen, like I didn’t hear nobody mentioned.” He also talks about how Pusha reached out to him, looking for something dark for the album that his fan base would appreciate, and how he came up with the Biggie laugh sample. Watch above. –Complex